March 17, 2007

The Language of Brotherhood and Affection between the Assyrian Church of the East and the Roman Catholic Church

Pope John Paul II himself joined in calling the Assyrian Church of the East “The Church of Martyrs”, because no church has suffered as high a degree of martyrdom as that Church.

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Address of John Paul II to the Patriarch of the Assyrian Church of the East
Thursday, 8 November 1984
Click HERE for it.

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The Discourse of His Holiness, Mar Dinkha IV, Catholicos-Patriarch of the Church of the East, to John Paul II, Bishop of Rome and Pope of the Roman Catholic Church, November 11, 1994
“. . . . To you our brothers we offer the hand of fellowship and our unfeigned fraternal affection, and to the Holy Trinity we commit these our labors toward unity. Amen.”
Click HERE for it.

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Common Christological Declaration between the Catholic Church and the Assyrian Church of the East
November 1994
Click HERE for it, or HERE.

In that “Declaration” both Church leaders affirmed:
Whatever our Christological divergences have been, we experience ourselves united in the confession of the same faith in the Son of God who became man so that we might become children of God by his grace. We wish from now on to witness together to this faith in the One who is the Way, the Truth and the Life, proclaiming it in appropriate ways to our contemporaries, so that the world may believe in the Gospel of salvation. […] Living by this faith and these sacraments, it follows as a consequence that the particular Catholic churches and the particular Assyrian churches can recognize each other as sister Churches.

The Pope and the Patriarch also pledged themselves “to do everything possible to dispel the obstacles of the past which still prevent the attainment of full communion between our Churches, so that we can better respond to the Lord’s call for the unity of his own, a unity which has of course to be expressed visibly”. For this purpose they established a joint committee for theological dialogue between the Catholic Church and the Assyrian Church of the East.


8 Comments:

Blogger Father Stephanos, O.S.B. said...

The following comments originally appeared in the comments box for my earlier post, “The Family Tree of the Eucharistic Liturgy”

9:52 AM  
Blogger Father Stephanos, O.S.B. said...

Anonymous said...

"Outside the borders of the Roman Empire, two places developed authentic Eucharistic liturgies. In Persia or Chaldea (modern-day Iran and Iraq) the East Syrian or CHALDEAN Liturgy evolved".

The above paragraph isn't correct.Did you write that the Pope wrote it???

Today's Chaldean Catholics didn't come from Chaldea because Christianity didn't evolve in Iraq in Chaldea.Today's Chaldean Catholics belonged to The Holy Apostolic Ancient Church of The East today known as The Holy Apostolic Assyrian Catholic Church of The East and as such they are ethnically Assyrians.They were only called Chaldeans after a group lead by a separatist monk named Youkhana Sulaqa decided to join the Roman Catholic Church after he was promised to be made into a patriarch,thus he betrayed his faith and joined Roman Catholicism.

Those Assyrians who joined Roman Catholicism were called Chaldeans by Pope Eugene IV in order to distance them from their fellow Assyrians who refused to leave the Holy Mother Church of The East.

Till today the Chaldean Catholics celebrate the Liturgy of Mar Addai(Thaddaeus) and Mar Mari who were of the seventy apostles sent by our Lord to preach and as their fellow Assyrians the Chaldean Catholics recognize Mar Toma(St. Thomas) as the patron Saint of the Church of The East.

Those Assyrians who are today called Chaldean Catholics have amongst them thousands who profess being ethnically Assyrian even though they follow Roman Catholicism.

It's sad that some try to hide the truth,it was the Church of The East which preached the Gospel to the four corners of the world long before any missionaries even ventured any where and by the same token the Easten Rite of the Chaldean Catholic Church is that of the Ancient Church of The East (Assyrian) but ofcourse they added to it elements of Roman Catholicism

The other point is that there is no such a thing as Chaldean Nestorians for that is an invention of the Roman Catholic Church and it was a part of the un truthful alliance which was held against the Church of The East when it was labled erroneously and hatefully Nestorian while it was never Nestorian since Nestor or Nestorius wasn't even an Assyrian but rather the Patriarch of Byzantium who had a feud with Cyril of Alexandria over the phrase Mother of Jesus or Mother of God.
The Ancient Church of The East had developed its Liturgy and rite long before Nestorius was even born and the Ancient Church of The East (Assyrian) wasn't even present at the Council which banished Nestorius.Nestorius had adopted the thought that St. Mary was the Mother of Jesus,something which centuries later was held true by the late Pope John Paul II who signed a declaration with His Holiness Catholicos Patriarch Mar Dinkha IV of the Holy Apostolic Assyrian Church of The East recognizing that Mary was indeed the Mother of Jesus and whether we called her that or called her Theotekos it was all the same and there was nothing wrong with that.

Finally,and let this be known to every one here and every where else that the Roman Catholic Church sent its missionaries to the East and instead of preaching to the heathen and those who didn't believe in Christ they went amongst the Christians as wolves in the sheep's clothing and divided every eastern church creating within it a Roman Catholic branch such as:

*Coptic Catholics from the coptic Orthodox.
*Armenian Catholics from the Armenian Orthodox.

*Maronites from the Syrian Orthodox Church.
*Chaldean Catholics from the Church of The East.
*Syrian Catholics from the Syrian Orthodox Church.

*Greek Melkites from the Greek Orthodox Church.

And now they come to tell us that the Eastern Rite was started in Chaldea??? What a joke...The Chaldeans Catholics only came about in 1551 before that all their Patriarchs are those of the Holy Mother Church,the Church of The East.

But ofcourse the prelates and priests of the Chaldean Catholic Church are living in denial by denying their roots and their Holy Mother Church,the Church of The East.

9:54 AM  
Blogger Father Stephanos, O.S.B. said...

Anonymous asks, "Did you write that the Pope wrote it???"

By simply reading what I wrote, one would see that, no, I did not write that the Pope wrote it.

Some members of the Churches of the East are fond of denouncing the Roman Catholic Church for having members in the lands of the East.

However, Roman Catholics never denounce the Churches of the East for having members in the lands of the West.

Here in California, the first to bring the Gospel were the Spanish Catholic friars. There are many Eastern Churches here in California now, but the Roman Catholic Church does not complain of that. Many of the Eastern Churches in California have a large number of converts from families that were once Catholic. The Roman Catholic Church does not accuse the Eastern Churches of proselytizing.

We Roman Catholics acknowledge the sacramental mysteries of the Eastern Churches to be authentic.

9:54 AM  
Blogger Father Stephanos, O.S.B. said...

Anonymous said...

"Some members of the Churches of the East are fond of denouncing the Roman Catholic Church for having members in the lands of the East".

*They denounce that because of the manner it was done,you don't send missionaries to a land where the people had already accepted Christ and change them in order to gain members and this policy is still practiced till today by the Roman Catholic Church.Please write the truth and don't turn around it.I'm fond of the truth and I don't like those who turn in circles.The Roman Catholic Church did wrong by its Christian brethren in the Middle East and as it offered a public apology to the Jews it must offer another public apology to its Christian brethren for that which its missionaries did.

However, Roman Catholics never denounce the Churches of the East for having members in the lands of the West.

*The members which belong to the Churches of the East are their own but they don't send missionaries and convert Roman Catholics into joining their Churches because they respect the fact that they are already Christians.If there are some who have left the Roman Catholic Church in order to join an Eastern Church then that is by choice and not coersion.

"Here in California, the first to bring the Gospel were the Spanish Catholic friars. There are many Eastern Churches here in California now, but the Roman Catholic Church does not complain of that. Many of the Eastern Churches in California have a large number of converts from families that were once Catholic. The Roman Catholic Church does not accuse the Eastern Churches of proselytizing".

* How can the Roman Catholic Church accuse those Eastern Churches of proselytizing as I mentioned above those who joined Eastern Churches leaving their Roman Catholic Church did it for a reason but they weren't forced into it like the missionaries did in the Middle East,even in India the history of the Portuguese missionaries and what they did to the Indians who belonged to the Church of The East is so dark that they still remember it till today.

"We Roman Catholics acknowledge the sacramental mysteries of the Eastern Churches to be authentic".

* You have to acknowledge that the sacramental mysteries of the Eastern Churches are authentic for the following reasons.

You have to gain their support otherwise they will leave Roman Catholicism (for those who are in union with Rome).

As for the Church of The East,its glorious history is the testimony to its authenticity and to the work it has done in preaching the Gospel and it has remained true to its ancient traditions and the teachings of its Lord Jesus Christ.

Lastly,you may not like the above and you may not publish it will remain with you.

9:55 AM  
Blogger Father Stephanos, O.S.B. said...

On December 14, 1975, Pope Paul VI kissed the feet of a delegate from the patriarch of Constantinople in the Sistine Chapel. It was Paul VI's way of apologizing for Pope Eugene IV, who in 1437 at the Council of Florence, had forced the Orthodox patriarch to kiss his feet in an act of submission.

On May 4, 2001, in Greece, in the presence of leaders of the Orthodox Church, Pope John Paul II said, "For occasions past and present, when sons and daughters of the Catholic Church have sinned by action or omission against their Orthodox brothers and sisters, may the Lord grant us the forgiveness we beg of him." The Pope made specific reference to the "disastrous sack" of Constantinople in 1204, when Catholic Crusaders laid waste to the capital of the Orthodox world.

Does anonymous know how to forgive?

Anonymous says:
As for the Church of The East, its glorious history is the testimony to its authenticity and to the work it has done in preaching the Gospel and it has remained true to its ancient traditions and the teachings of its Lord Jesus Christ.

One of the teachings of our Lord Jesus Christ is to forgive one's brother from one's heart. Indeed, our Lord Jesus Christ even teaches us to forgive our enemies and those who sin against us.

Will anonymous remain true to that teaching of our Lord Jesus Christ? Will anonymous forgive or not?

9:55 AM  
Blogger Father Stephanos, O.S.B. said...

Anonymous said...

I do forgive but I will never forget because what the Vatican did was a great damage which has carried on till today when most of the Chaldean Catholic priests,bishops and their Patriarch today Mar Delly are preaching hatred against the followers of the Church of The East just because they also want to cover their eyes and walk blindly so that their followers will not learn the truth.

The Popes you mentioned apologized to the Orthodox Churches now it is time for Pope Benedict to apologize to the Churches of The East for what the missionaries did and specifically to the Assyrian Church of The East for splitting it and creating specifically the Chaldean Catholic branch.

If any Pope has done that I would like to see a proof.

As I mentioned we forgive but we will never forget until the truth is out there for all to see.

9:55 AM  
Blogger Father Stephanos, O.S.B. said...

Dear Anonymous Brother in the Assyrian Church of the East,
. . . . I borrow the words of the Patriarch of your Church, His Holiness Mar Dinkha IV, by addressing to you and all in the Assyrian Church of the East the same words your Patriarch addressed to us Roman Catholics on November 8, 1994.”
“To you our brothers we offer the hand of fellowship and our unfeigned fraternal affection, and to the Holy Trinity. Amen."

9:56 AM  
Blogger Father Stephanos, O.S.B. said...

The ABOVE comments originally appeared in the comments box for my earlier post, “The Family Tree of the Eucharistic Liturgy”

9:56 AM  

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